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Inside the German CPA Mindset: Tax, Succession & AI | Dan Pascone with Patrick Kempf | Ep #14

TL;DR

Patrick Kempf, a German CPA and tax adviser, is a majority equity partner at a mid-sized tax and audit firm in Germany that serves owner-led and family businesses. He says his clients' biggest challenges are labor shortages as baby boomers retire and supply chain disruption, that AI and automation are changing accounting and compliance work, and that the profession may consolidate as older advisers retire. He also stresses the value of CPAs working alongside financial advisors. These are his views, not guarantees or recommendations.

For a 40s–50s executive or business owner with $500k+ in household income and complex compensation, the takeaways are about team coordination and timing: tax and planning decisions work best when your CPA and financial advisor talk to each other, and Patrick's closing advice is to start investing early and let time work. This is general education, not tax advice, and German rules differ from U.S. rules.

Who Is Patrick Kempf?

Patrick Kempf is a German CPA and tax adviser with an MBA. He says he started his career at a Big Four firm, spent time in the U.S. and Asia, joined his current mid-sized tax and audit firm in 2018, became a partner in 2019 and became a majority equity partner at the start of this year. He was Tailored Wealth's first international podcast guest.

He says the firm has roughly 60 employees and serves small and medium-sized companies, often family businesses, with annual revenue of about €1–50 million. He describes a holistic approach that covers tax, future planning and succession planning for the companies, plus tax and financial questions for the owners themselves.

His Typical Client and What the Firm Does

Patrick says the ideal client is a service or manufacturing company with a solid balance sheet and steady growth, usually owned 100% by the founder or by a family across several generations. He says the firm handles monthly accounting, bookkeeping, payroll, financial statements, business plans and forecasts. It also helps with bank financing for new projects and with financial and tax due diligence when a client acquires a company. On the personal side, he says the team prepares owners' income tax returns and works with their financial advisors on investments.

He says the firm has been around for 50 years, has always been mostly family-owned, and that he's the 2nd generation in the firm. His view is that having real skin in the game, including owning the office building, helps the team understand the decisions clients face. Dan said he built Tailored Wealth around the same idea: he used to be an executive-level leader and is now an entrepreneur, so he can relate to both groups he serves.

Labor Shortages and the Changing Accounting Industry

Patrick says a major challenge for German companies is a shortage of labor, with many baby boomers retiring, and that it has become more severe over the last 3–4 years. He also mentions supply chain disruptions. He says clients respond by using software and AI, recruiting from wider European and non-European labor markets, streamlining their organizations and using their existing capacity more efficiently. He says his firm helps by digitalizing and automating accounting so owners can focus on operations.

On his own industry, he describes accounting and tax as steady and says there has always been a need for it. He expects less manual work and more AI in monthly accounting and compliance, freeing time for consulting. He notes that many tax advisers in Germany are in their early 60s and nearing retirement, that small practices of 5 or 10 employees that haven't digitalized could be overtaken or acquired, and that he expects consolidation, with private equity investors already preparing to change the market. [VERIFY: guest opinion about industry trends] Dan agreed that AI could change the game for manual work like tax returns if it's trained and used well.

How the Firm Finds Clients and Plans Ahead

Patrick says most new clients come from recommendations by existing clients, which he calls the firm's number 1 source of new business. He adds Google search, some LinkedIn outreach and, to a lesser extent, social media. He also gets referrals from banks, notaries and lawyers, including private banks that serve high-net-worth individuals and, sometimes, investment banks, usually when they already know the firm or see a fit with its industry expertise.

Looking ahead, he says the firm has already brought in the next generation at the partner level, with 1 partner at 57 and a new equity partner in his early 30s joining later this year, plus a healthy age mix among employees. He wants to keep a mix of older and younger clients, continue the firm's specialization and apply AI where it makes sense.

Lightning Round Highlights

  • Coffee or tea: Tea, usually green. He says he doesn't drink coffee at all, which he jokes is unusual for a CPA.
  • Cats or dogs: Dogs.
  • Technology he can't live without: The iPad, and AirPods.
  • Favorite quote: "Money is made by money," meaning compound interest. Dan added the "eighth wonder of the world" line often attributed to Einstein, though the origin is unverified. [VERIFY]
  • Favorite book: Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss, about negotiation.
  • Personal hack: Arriving at the office early to review his schedule and clear emails before client meetings, clearing his inbox again in the evening and forwarding tasks others can handle.
  • Bucket list item accomplished: Completing his professional degrees and becoming a partner at a relatively young age.
  • Current milestone: The partnership transition his firm completed earlier this year, with the next generation, clients and employees on board.
  • Advice to his younger self: Invest as early as possible, even with small amounts, and increase them as soon as feasible so the money can work.

What Most People Miss

  • Tax and planning decisions shouldn't happen in separate rooms: Dan called the CPA and financial advisor partnership critical for a holistic approach. Equity awards, retirement contributions and charitable giving all have a tax side and a planning side. Our post on virtual family office services looks at what a coordinated team can look like.

  • Ownership of your advisors can change: Patrick expects consolidation and outside investors in his profession. Whatever industry you're in, it's reasonable to ask how a professional's firm is owned and how they're paid.

  • Foreign rules aren't U.S. rules: Nothing here is German tax advice, and German and U.S. systems differ. U.S. taxpayers with accounts, businesses or family ties abroad can face additional reporting requirements, so they should work with a professional experienced in cross-border situations.

  • "Invest early" is a good start, not a full plan: Time in the market can help because gains can build on gains, and the SEC's investor.gov glossary explains compound interest. But returns aren't guaranteed, and fees, taxes, inflation and losses compound too.

Example (Hypothetical): What Starting Earlier Could Mean

This hypothetical is for illustration only. All figures are assumed, aren't projections or recommendations, and ignore taxes, fees and inflation. Returns aren't guaranteed and can be negative.

Assume 2 executives each invest $2,000 a month until age 65 and earn an assumed 6% a year, compounded monthly.

  • Executive A, starts at 40: Contributes for 25 years, or $600,000 in total, which grows to about $1,386,000 under these assumptions.
  • Executive B, starts at 50: Contributes for 15 years, or $360,000 in total, which grows to about $582,000.

In this example, Executive A contributes $240,000 more and ends up with roughly $804,000 more. The gap comes mostly from the extra 10 years of growth. Real results will vary, and a market decline early on could change the picture. The practical point is that for someone in their 40s or 50s, starting now still matters, and the amount you save and the risk you take matter just as much.

How This Fits Our Approach at Tailored Wealth

We use Life-Driven Planning, a 6-phase plan covering Cash Flow, Retirement & Hybrid Retirement, Risk, Expense & Goal, Tax and Legacy. The Tax phase is where we coordinate with your CPA so that decisions about equity, retirement accounts and giving are made with both views in mind. Life Driven Investing (LDI) builds a portfolio backward from your life using the Four Liquidity Bands: 0–2 years, 3–5 years, 6–10 years and 10+ years. Our video on asset location and your 401(k) shows how where you hold investments can affect taxes.

For executives with RSUs, options or an ESPP, our Equity Compensation Playbook, a set of structured rules for those awards, helps us plan the timing of sales and taxes with your CPA. Under our Quarterly Strategy Rhythm (ongoing plan updates, decision reviews and rebalancing), we revisit the plan on a schedule. This episode is educational and isn't an endorsement of Patrick's firm or any company, book or strategy discussed.

Who This Is For

This episode is for corporate executives, senior professionals and business owners in their 40s and 50s with $500k+ in household income and complex compensation who want their tax and planning professionals working together, and who want to understand how succession, technology and long-term investing fit into the bigger picture.

Frequently Asked Questions

What types of businesses does Patrick’s firm typically work with?

They focus on small and mid-sized companies in Germany, generally with €1–50 million in annual revenue. Many are owner-led or family-owned businesses in the services or manufacturing sectors, with solid balance sheets and steady growth. The firm supports both the company’s financial operations and the owners’ personal tax and planning needs.

How is the German accounting landscape changing?

While demand for tax and accounting services remains strong, the profession is facing a demographic cliff as many practitioners approach retirement. At the same time, AI and digitization are reshaping how work gets done especially in routine bookkeeping and compliance which is likely to accelerate consolidation among firms that haven’t modernized.

What are the biggest challenges Patrick’s clients are dealing with right now?

The two most consistent themes are skilled labor shortages and the need to adapt to a more volatile environment (including supply chain issues). Clients struggle to find and retain qualified staff as baby boomers retire, so they increasingly rely on technology, process improvements, and advisors like Patrick to free up internal capacity and make better strategic decisions.

How does a firm like Patrick’s use AI and technology in practice?

AI and software tools are primarily used to automate repetitive tasks, like data entry, invoice processing, and some aspects of monthly accounting and tax compliance. This allows human professionals to focus on higher-value work: interpreting numbers, planning for tax and succession, supporting bank financing, and advising on acquisitions or structural changes.

Why are referrals from banks, lawyers, and advisors so important?

For mid-market and family businesses, trust is critical. When a bank, lawyer, or financial advisor vouches for an accounting firm, it shortens the trust-building process dramatically. Because these professionals already understand the client’s situation, their recommendations tend to be well-aligned, leading to longer, more holistic relationships.

What can business owners learn from Patrick’s career path?

Patrick’s trajectory, from Big Four experience to joining and then leading a 50-year-old firm, highlights the value of mixing institutional training with entrepreneurial responsibility. His story underscores how aligning ownership, leadership, and client service can create long-term stability and a deeper understanding of what business owners actually face day-to-day.

What’s the key investing lesson Patrick would share with young professionals?

Start early, even with small amounts, and increase your contributions as your income grows. The combination of time and compounding can make a profound difference over decades, especially when paired with disciplined saving and sensible risk management.

Do international tax rules matter if I'm a U.S. executive?

Only if you have cross-border ties, such as foreign accounts, a business or property abroad, family members overseas or a move abroad. U.S. taxpayers generally face tax and reporting rules that follow them, and every country's system is different. Patrick's firm works within the German system, so nothing on this page applies to your own filings. If you have international ties, work with a CPA experienced in cross-border situations and let us know so the plan reflects it.

How should my CPA and financial advisor work together?

Your CPA focuses on tax preparation and tax positions. Your advisor focuses on your plan, investments and the timing of financial decisions. They work best when they share information, with your permission, before big decisions such as selling company stock, exercising options or making charitable gifts, not after the year ends. Our post on tax law changes for executives shows why timing and coordination matter.

Is it too late to start investing in my 40s or 50s?

No, but there's less time, so the amount you save and the risk you can take matter more. Starting earlier gives money more time to grow, and returns aren't guaranteed. We look at your savings rate, your goals and your timeline together. Our video on what a real financial plan includes covers where to start. If you'd like help mapping it to your own situation, book a free Wealth Strategy Call with us.

Talk Through Your Own Plan

If you're a high-earning executive or business owner who wants your tax and financial decisions working together, we'd be glad to talk it through. Book a free Wealth Strategy Call with us, and we'll look at your situation together.

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